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Re: Questions
Posted on Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:50:11 UT
I want to add that Latin America is huge, and for instance, the
Mexican accent is completly different to Argentine accent (by the way,
we love Argentine accent). Anyway. Finally, I agree with Roger about
it was either a misunderstanding or an isolated case.
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Re: Questions
Posted on Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:55:49 UT
Well of course. it's the informal forms which have all but disappeared
in English - thee, thou, which together with 'ye' have all been
replaced by 'you', and preserved in ordinary speech only by the Bible
and Shakespeare. The exceptions are regional, especially Scotland and
the North of England, where 'ye', 'thee' and 'tha', a form of 'thou'
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Re: Questions
Posted on Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:06:05 UT
Hi Roger (et al), enjoying this dialog. I found your reference to “…
the best Spanish is spoken in Valladolid” most interesting. This last
April we were touring the Rioja wine region and stumbled across San
Millán de la Cogolla (
[link] %C3%A1n_de_la_Cogolla). San Millán (declared a world heritage site)
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:23:37 UT
Ah, OK, the old tu vs usted dilemma.
To be honest, there are so many exceptions to the situations described in
the textbooks, that it's almost easier to just play it by ear. In my
opinion, the best rule of thumb is the age one: if you use tu for anybody
under 30 and usted for anybody over 50, then you won't go far wrong. You'll
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Thu, 29 Dec 2011 00:20:09 UT
I love reading this "conversation". I first visited Spain in 1983. I lived there from 85-88, and since moving back to the US, I've spent part of my year in Spain every year except 2 of them (96 and 98) but some years visited 2x. ( I married a Spaniard).
Being both a Spanish learner and teacher, my first thought is that maybe the person in question misunderstood the helpfulness of the interaction. MANY people go to Spain to learn "castellano", even latin americans. Because of this, many nativos in areas that have large numbers of tourists and foreign students have fallen into the habit of "helping" (ie. correcting) people they come in contact with. My SIL worked in a pastry shop near the center of Salamanca and would tell me about the interactions she had. She always tried to be helpful and respectful while "adjusting" their spanish.
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:09:36 UT
Thanks to Roger and Tim. I'm overwhelmed at the responses.
Since this worked out well beyond my expectations, my thought
was to just sit back, relax, and read the comments (they're all
very interesting). Alas, I was asked a couple of questions that I
should answer, so I'll just pick and choose and respond.
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:12:31 UT
Talking about mistakes....
I'm afraid I spelt a word incorrectly not once, but three times! I'm now
living in Portugal and my nascent Portuguese was taking over when I wrote
"coneci", which can only be Portuñol (neither correct Portuguese nor
correct Spanish, but a mixture of both)
The first person past tense of the verb conocer is of course *conocí*!
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:40:38 UT
Hi Tim,
Thanks, what a great contribution to what is becoming an incredibly
interesting thread, and thanks to Jim also for starting things off -
hopefully others will also join in.
I really enjoyed reading your post, Tim, but I will have to take issue with
a number of points you make, hoping you'll take this in the spirit intended
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Re: [travelspain] Camino de Santiago....
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:41:46 UT
Sorry I can't help with this one. I have family members that have done the Camino de Cabrera (
[link] but not Santiago.
Karen
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My companion is interested in doing the entire Camino de Santiago walk.....Where is the place to contact for this.....that is reliable, knowledgeable, and reasonably priced. What does the group suggest....especially those who have done the walk (or part of it)?......Wonder if Karen or Mac or some of the old-timers or Roger have done the walk....my best to all of you....
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:24:37 UT
Jim,
.
I lived in Spain in 1985-86 and later in 1988, and have gone back a few times.
In my experience, Spain is the old world, and you'll find a certain amount of snobbery anywhere in Europe that assumes that the older culture is better. The average person in Spain will not correct your Spanish in an arrogant way, but it happens frequently enough to notice. I remember meeting many people who would talk about Spanish from Spain being the "best" Spanish spoken; they would seem to congratulate themselves for their open-mindedness when they would point out, for example, that in Latin America, the "best" Spanish is spoken in Colombia (I have no idea why they always said it was Colombia). The average Spaniard had, when I was there, regressive opinions about the "value" of cultures and language, uninformed by modern anthropological or linguistic concepts (linguists nowadays contantly reaffirm that it's ridiculous to say that one dialect or another is "better" than some other).
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Re: [travelspain] Questions
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:00:07 UT
Hi Jim,
That is very strange, because there has been a massive influx of South
Americans to Spain in the last 10 years or so, and Spaniards are more than
used to the many different types of South American accents. If you go on
the Metro in Madrid and look around the wagon, you'll almost certainly see
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Re: [travelspain] Camino de Santiago....
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:29:46 UT
Alfonso,
I have done this twice - the first time was a 200km stretch in 2000 and then again in 2010 when I did the entire Camino Del Norte. There are really good sites out there that detail the walk, including my blog - but the best way to experience the Camino is to 'wing' it. Start walking in preparation, get good boots NOW and break them in and above all space your stops based on your fitness - one size DOES NOT fit all - even if a website says a 28 mi walk is easy that doesnt mean you can do that every day. It is a phenomenal experience if you let it be. I stayed in albergues, hotels, camped in the mountains in blizzards, brothels, police stations...... made lifelong friends, got a new perspective on life.
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Camino de Santiago....
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:17:55 UT
My companion is interested in doing the entire Camino de Santiago
walk.....Where is the place to contact for this.....that is reliable,
knowledgeable, and reasonably priced. What does the group
suggest....especially those who have done the walk (or part of
it)?......Wonder if Karen or Mac or some of the old-timers or Roger have
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Questions
Posted on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:50:52 UT
I've been a member of this group for years and never really posted
much, but recently it occurred to me that this might be just the place
to post the questions I have. I have a lot of 'em and this seems like the
perfect place to get answers - knowledgeable English-speaking people
who "heart" Spain as much as - more than - I (we) do. I should probably
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Re: [travelspain] Madrid Snow Zone
Posted on Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:52:00 UT
Hi Phuong and welcome to the Travel Spain group!
Let's see if I can answer your questions:
I haven't actually tried it, but in theory you can buy the ticket in
advance online, using their online "Tienda". It seems you have to register
first, which I did do, but I'm still waiting for the registration
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Madrid Snow Zone
Posted on Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:13:04 UT
Hello there,
We will be visiting Madrid next June and would like to visit the Snow
Zone. We have browsed the website but it seems it has only Spanish
version. We had to use google translation to understand the services
but still it was too hard..I have contacted with the center but no
reply so far...I have a couple of questions that I would highly
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Re: [travelspain] Christmas card
Posted on Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:57:04 UT
Merry Christmas, everyone may the new year bring happiness and prosperity
to all, Dance one year in, kiss one goodbye
thankx to you guys my trip to Andalusia in Nov was perfect!
greetings from Egypt
Mona
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Re: [travelspain] Christmas card
Posted on Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:24:34 UT
Merry Christmas everyone :)
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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Re: [travelspain] Christmas card
Posted on Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:22:04 UT
Merry Christmas Mac
Guy
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Re: [travelspain] Christmas card
Posted on Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:23:00 UT
Thanks for the seasonal messages (from Mac & Karen) and hope that
all of you are doing well. Went on my annual trip to Spain. but a
little later than usual (mid-Oct to mid-Nov)....many problems with aging
& ill relatives, so wasn't too pleasant. Don't know how many more
annual trips I will be making in the future, but I'll keep making the
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Re: [travelspain] Christmas card
Posted on Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:16:32 UT
Heyyyy, that's the scarf that everyone in Spain wears. Now I know where they got it. Ha ha. But seriously I thought it was a very tactful play on words. :-)
Karen
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Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:55 PM
I received this Christmas card from El Corte Ingles, the Spanish
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Christmas card
Posted on Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:55:53 UT
I received this Christmas card from El Corte Ingles, the Spanish
Department store, so thought I would pass it on to everyone here, for
you to enjoy or cringe, according to outlook.
[link]
¡Felices Fiestas!
Mac
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Smurf town in Spain votes to stay blue
Posted on Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:01:33 UT
An
item on Boing-Boing <
[link]> alerted me to this:
The small city of Juzcar in southern Spain was painted blue as a
film location for The Smurfs movie. Sony Pictures offered to repaint
all the homes but the residents voted yesterday to stay blue.
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A Catalan Christmas
Posted on Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:51:54 UT
A Catalan Christmas (New York Times)
<[link]> [link]
Sandy
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Re: [travelspain] Digest for travelspain@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 1 Topic
Posted on Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:30:13 UT
Holy sh*t. That place is awesome.
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Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:14:18 UT
Um. I see that Google is denying access to my link. For those
wanting to savour the delights of the Casino de Madrid, cutting and
pasting the link into your web browser will work, or
[link] just might
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Re: [travelspain] Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:00:18 UT
They wouldn't have me either, I'm sure, but I console myself with Groucho
Marx's famous phrase about private clubs.
Well, this is certainly not a non-profit organisation and one of the rooms
is specifically for card games, so in theory smoking is prohibited, but
what's the betting they'll find a loophole in the law to open up some sort
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Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:48:07 UT
I'm fighting a rearguard action here! I've no doubt that nowadays the
word 'casino' will mean the same in Spain as it does throughout the
world, ie a place where you can lose serious money.
BUT [link]
Magnificent, eh? I think if I lived in Madrid I might even apply for
membership (but I doubt they'd have me)
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Re: [travelspain] Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:36:02 UT
Hi Mac,
It wasn't tongue in cheek, because I think those places are only called
casinos in very small villages. I think most Spanish people would call them
a "Centro social" or "Casa del Pueblo", rather than a casino. When you say
casino to most Spanish people they'll immediately think of the same
establishment that English-speakers would, and not a gathering place as you
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Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:11:13 UT
I can only conclude that was tongue-in-cheek! (pity you don't have
emoticons on here).
But others reading may not know that very many Spanish towns have a
'Casino' which is not a gambling den but a gathering place for locals,
with meeting rooms, a cafe and bar. Visitors are usually welcome, but
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Re: [travelspain] Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:02:16 UT
Hi Mac,
Non-gambling casinos? Can you give an example?
In any case, the law prohibits smoking in casinos, bingo halls and game
halls so I doubt you'll find smoke in any kind of casino.
I've not personally experienced the situation, but the amount of people
huddled round doorways of offices, bars and restaurants to smoke outside on
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Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:45:16 UT
Ha! I don't think I've ever been in a discotheque, and very many
years since I was in a nightclub. But what about the casinos (not the
gambling ones, but the local social clubs)? I sometimes frequent
those - has the smoke disappeared? (I should make it clear that I'm
the non-smoker).
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Re: [travelspain] Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:49:25 UT
Hi Mac,
I suppose the difference is what you call a private club, because the "Ley
Antitabaco" certainly prohibits smoking in discotheques (it prohibits
smoking in any enclosed public space).
The law does contemplate private smoking clubs, but they are not allowed to
sell any products, have employees or make money in any way and have to be
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Re: smoking in Madrid
Posted on Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:36:36 UT
It appears that smoking is still allowed in private clubs, and hotels
are allowed to designate up to 30% of their rooms as smoking? The new
legislation has come into force since we were last in Spain. Both I
and Mrs Mac will notice the difference, but for opposite reasons!
That is, if the new rules are observed/enforced. Are they?
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Re:[travelspain] smoking in Madrid
Posted on Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:15:50 UT
Hi Lisa,
Spain's anti-tobacco laws are arguably Europe's harshest. In theory,
smoking is banned in all bars, cafés, restaurants and clubs. I suggest you
check out this page for more detailed information :
[link] Best wishes, Roger.
[link] ---------
Sent from my Galaxy Tab
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smoking in Madrid
Posted on Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:43:53 UT
I am writing a paper about European smoking habits, and wondered if Spanish laws allow for the smoking of cigars or cigarettes in private clubs?
If so could you give me the names of any such clubs in Madrid please?
Thank you
Lisa
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Winter in Mallorca ((again)
Posted on Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:55:48 UT
Hi Mac
Lanzarote - it's small be magical - well it was 10 years ago - and if I
was lucky enough to go again I'd go across to Fuentaventura.
Sue
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Re: Winter in Mallorca ((again)
Posted on Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:35:52 UT
I know - I was there a couple of years ago! Tenerife and La Gomera,
which I wrote about here.
Gran Canaria and/or one of the smaller islands would be a possibility,
though.
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Winter in Mallorca ((again)
Posted on Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:09:54 UT
How about the "other" islands then, the Canaries?
Lanzarote has some wonderful volcanic formations to keep the interest and
Tenerife, away from the hordes, is a beautiful island.
Roger.
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Re: Winter in Mallorca ((again)
Posted on Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:40:16 UT
Well most of her moans were about accommodation difficulties and the
attitude of the natives, but what I imagine hasn't changed is the
weather - storms of wind and rain which continued for days at a time.
However I was speaking to a friend tonight who had visited Mallorca in
March; perhaps he was unlucky, but he found exactly the same then.
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Re: [travelspain] suggestions things to do in Andalusia
Posted on Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:09:46 UT
And here’s an even older trip report, partly covering your itinerary. I doubt that much has changed, mind you!
Enjoy the journey.
Stewart
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 10:55 PM
To: travelspain@googlegroups.com
Attached is a copy of our 2008 trip report; hopefully something of use. Have a great trip!
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Re: [travelspain] suggestions things to do in Andalusia
Posted on Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:55:07 UT
Attached is a copy of our 2008 trip report; hopefully something of use. Have a
great trip!
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Sent: Sun, October 30, 2011 3:18:41 PM
i m going with a coupe of friends next week on a small tour to Spain going
through (Madrid, Toledo, Sevilla, Granada, Cordoba)
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suggestions things to do in Andalusia
Posted on Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:18:41 UT
i m going with a coupe of friends next week on a small tour to Spain going
through (Madrid, Toledo, Sevilla, Granada, Cordoba)
any suggestions "hidden" places to eat get cool unusual souvenirs, things
not to be missed whether food, activities, places, shows....
thankx
Mona
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Re: [travelspain] Winter in Mallorca ((again)
Posted on Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:42:18 UT
What did she say about winter in Mallorca that was "off-putting"?
Roger.
Sent from my Android phone.
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Winter in Mallorca ((again)
Posted on Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:10:50 UT
A few years back I asked about visiting Mallorca in winter
[link] after reading a possibly oudated but very interesting account of the
island (1927).
Well, I've gone even further back this time, to the more famous stay
of Chopin and his mistress in 1838-9. My copy of 'A Winter in
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Fate of Franco's Valley of Fallen reopens Spain wounds
Posted on Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:47:50 UT
In message <4d69b10b-208a-429f-933c-b2fe8 02d4...@m18g2000vbl.googlegrou p
s.com>, Mac <M...@macwolfelee.plus.com> writes
Although to the Spaniards, it doesn't seem to be the same.
Talk about a bull fight, and you will get a firm opinion, and surprise
that any should disagree with them.
Talk about Franco, and everyone goes quiet, and says, some things are
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Re: Fate of Franco's Valley of Fallen reopens Spain wounds
Posted on Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:17:07 UT
I heard a feature about this on BBC radio the other day. What a mess,
eh? All countries have their sensitive spots. In the UK it's Class /
Privilege, but Spain has at least two - Francoism and Bullfighting!
Mac
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Fate of Franco's Valley of Fallen reopens Spain wounds
Posted on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:17:19 UT
Interesting article in the BBC today about attitudes towards the changes
planned for the Valle de los Caídos, which we've mentioned a few times
before on this list.
BBC article:
[link] Recent TravelSpain discussion:
[link]
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Miró's Majorca
Posted on Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:41:39 UT
The following New York Times article is about the artist, Miro, and his life
in Majorca.
In Spain, Miró's Majorca
By SARAH WILDMAN
[link]
Sandy
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Re: Places to visit in or near San Sebastian
Posted on Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:53:11 UT
We were just there in April. In San Sebastian, there is an old
carnival area called Funicular with a cool cable car that goes up the
side of a coastal hill on the crescent edge of city. Once up there the
views of San Sebastian and the ocean are incredible. The rest of the
setting is old carnival feel from the 30s & 40s ...but the views are
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RE: [travelspain] Angry Birds
Posted on Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:17:58 UT
Thanks for sending it Roger, real fun !
shared on my facebook wall :)
Best regards,
Clara
To: travelspain@googlegroups.com
Hello all,
OK, I know this is a very tenuous connection with travel in Spain, but this great commercial was filmed in Barcelona.
[link]
I love the Angry Birds game, and this ad certainly made me smile.
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Angry Birds
Posted on Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:51:35 UT
Hello all,
OK, I know this is a very tenuous connection with travel in Spain, but this
great commercial was filmed in Barcelona.
[link] I love the Angry Birds game, and this ad certainly made me smile.
Gail Suber has already seen it, since she saw the link mentioned in my
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Places to visit in or near San Sebastian
Posted on Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:55:16 UT
All,
We are planning a trip in July to San Sebastian and would love to have any recommendations on places to visit, restaurants to try etc.
We will have a car and speak Spanish so we can get around quite easily.
We have been to Spain several times as a family but this is our first visit to this region.
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Fwd: Re: Valle de los Caídos
Posted on Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:43:23 UT
Hi Mac,
Not at all! Franco's wife, Carmen Polo, was known as "La Collares" (the
necklace woman) by the populace because she liked wearing so much jewellery.
Legend (or truth!) has it that when they spent their Summer holidays in San
Sebastian the jewellers there started shaking in their boots, because
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Re: Fwd: Re: Valle de los Caídos
Posted on Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:24:09 UT
Yes, of course! My excuse was that I was in too much of a hurry to
get off to the pub outside which I was moored. The 'Reply' and 'Reply
to author' are right next to each other. Actually, on re-reading the
piece, I see that the proposal is to reinter Franco next to his wife,
not his mother. Never heard reference to Franco's wife. Was she kept
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Fwd: Re: Valle de los Caídos
Posted on Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:27:22 UT
Mac, correct the if I'm wrong, but "knowing" you, I'm pretty sure you meant
to send this to the group.
Roger.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
To: "Roger Warwick" <ro...@gomadrid.com>
Travelling through Surrey (England) on my boat on the river I was
amazed to find in a village newsagents a copy of (today's!) El Pais,
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Earthquake in Lorca - epicentres
Posted on Thu, 19 May 2011 12:03:47 UT
I should add that sue did a thesis on the Carbonares Fault Zone which
included a study of the historical earthquakes and a study of
preparedness and earthquake protection etc.
So.....
... its much safer not to ask any more earthquake related questions :-)
mikej
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Earthquake in Lorca - epicentres
Posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 12:06:41 UT
Hi Mac
There were two tremors and their epicentres were within metres of each
other in the La Vinas (that has a tilda over the n) part of the town in
its North East corner
The first was 4.9 and the next, 1hr 45 mins later, was 5.1 - so
buildings already shaken about were damaged more.
The tremors were very shallow and so hadn't attenuated in the way they
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Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 10:30:25 UT
Just to add that I switched to Google Chrome, with no better results.
(Shrug)
But my goodness, what a mess! It's correct it's disappeared out of
the UK press, and I haven't looked at The El Pais site for a while.
Do you know if Lorca was the actual epicentre, and were villages
around damaged also? I remember that when we were in Lorca a few
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 10:15:25 UT
Original report filed here:
[link] <
[link]>and also
here:
[link] <
[link]>(with the
roundabout intact!)
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 10:11:37 UT
Yes, thanks. That's fine now.
Mac
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 10:09:33 UT
Hi Mac,
Very strange - yes the post needs some side-scrolling to be read properly,
but in my Google Chrome browser the text can be read no problems. In any
case, here's the report again pasted into my message below - hopefully this
is better for you.
Note that, for example, the word roundabout IS missing the last letter of
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Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 10:03:23 UT
Hello Roger
I'm reading it at
[link]
However, the link you gave wasn't much better, the text being
unwrapped and cutting some words up. I tried to copy it to a text
program, with even worse results. Never had this problem before. The
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Re: [travelspain] Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Mon, 16 May 2011 13:42:52 UT
Thanks so much for your report. My heart goes out to those who have lost so
much!
Melinda
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Re: [travelspain] Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Mon, 16 May 2011 10:02:08 UT
Hi Mac,
Are you reading it in your email client? Perhaps you can read it at the
groups webpage?
[link] Roger.
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Re: Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Mon, 16 May 2011 10:00:04 UT
Thanks for the update, Sue, but I'm afraid I can't read it! Something
peculiar has happened to the text, and a lot of it is off-screen. I
can read other posts OK, so it's just this.
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Earthquake in Lorca - local report
Posted on Sun, 15 May 2011 09:04:17 UT
The news from Spain earlier this week was there had been two
earthquakes in Lorca, Southern Spain. UK television tended to
confuse the issue by having its Madrid correspondent report it and
it gave the impression that Lorca was a town close to Madrid.
In fact it is some 200 miles south and east of Madrid, the third
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RE: [travelspain] FW: Dramatic Sorolla Spanish Impressionist Paintings at the Hispanic Society
Posted on Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:52:54 UT
Hi Brian,
You're very welcome J Looking forward to hearing all about it when you go.
Sandy
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Sandy, thank you so much for this email. I am definitely going. I velieve
this is the same Hispanic Society that I visited back in the 60's!
All the best,
Brian Glynn
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Re: [travelspain] FW: Dramatic Sorolla Spanish Impressionist Paintings at the Hispanic Society
Posted on Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:21:38 UT
Sandy, thank you so much for this email. I am definitely going. I velieve this is the same Hispanic Society that I visited back in the 60's!
All the best,
Brian Glynn
908 507 7694
To: travelspain@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:02 AM
Dear Friends,
Considered to be one of the finest Spanish art collections in the Americas, THE HISPANIC SOCIETY contains works by Diego Velázquez, Francisco de Goya, El Greco, and Joaquín Sorolla y Bastida, among others.
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FW: Dramatic Sorolla Spanish Impressionist Paintings at the Hispanic Society
Posted on Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:04:12 UT
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:02 AM
Dear Friends,
Considered to be one of the finest Spanish art collections in the Americas,
THE HISPANIC SOCIETY contains works by Diego Velázquez, Francisco de Goya,
El Greco, and Joaquín Sorolla y Bastida, among others.
A major component of this museum is the Sorolla Room, which was reinstalled
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Re: [travelspain] You read it first here
Posted on Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:57:01 UT
It's nicer to be right than wrong! laugh!
Melinda
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You read it first here
Posted on Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:55:43 UT
I hope you will forgive me the immense satisfaction of saying "I was
right!"
The (London) Times yesterday carried a story about two of Goya's
Pinturas Negras, which after intensive investigation have revealed
hidden details. Particularly "El Perro Semihundido", which now
appears to have had two birds in the large blank space above the dog.
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Malaga
Posted on Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:13:41 UT
In Málaga, a Taste of Picasso (and Iberian Cuisine) by Seth Kugel (New York
Times)
[link]
Sandy
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Visiting the Basque region and Rioja vineyard region this spring
Posted on Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:37:07 UT
Revisiting Spain this mid-April to early May. I have always enjoyed
the many comments from this google group on places to go and
interesting things to see in Spain. So please do not hold back. One of
my kids is in Getxo for a semester of college credits. We will be
visiting him and casually cruising the coast line (San Sebastian,
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Re: [travelspain] Dalí in the Suburbs
Posted on Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:56:44 UT
Hi all
There's an article today in El País about the building Mac was asking
about below.
Article:
[link] It's the new "Museo de Colecciones Reales" or Museum of Royal
Collections, which is planned to open in 2014 and will house the
State's collection of tapestries and other "objets d'art"
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Re: Valle de los Caídos
Posted on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:10:57 UT
Just posting again to say that the re-opening is provoking as much
controversy as the closure did! Well over 100 comments on the El Pais
news item, both for and against. One poster comments that comparing
the Segovia aqueduct and all the castles and cathedrals in Spain to
the Valle de los Caidos is like comparing Gran Reserva wines to cheap
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Re: Valle de los Caídos
Posted on Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:46:40 UT
A very full account of the closure here
[link] which I missed at the time as it was published on the very day we
arrived in Spain. There appears to have been a groundswell of public
opinion against the closure, not least in this article and the ensuing
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Valle de los Caídos
Posted on Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:02:45 UT
According to an article in El País today (
[link]), the valle de
los Caídos will reopen again on December 19th.
Mac recently recounted how he had problems visiting this monument during his
visit to Madrid.
The problems were due to problems with the statue called "La Piedad",
representing the Virgin Mary with Christ in her arms, and located just above
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Re: New Google Groups
Posted on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:33:59 UT
Ah. Behind as usual. You ought to get a better sheepdog.
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RE: [travelspain] Photos of Spain in Winter
Posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:27:35 UT
Hi Melinda,
You're very welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed them.
Sandy
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Thanks so much for your wonderful pictures! I was in Spain during July and
August and it was very beautiful but so very hot!
Melinda
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Re: [travelspain] Photos of Spain in Winter
Posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:51:49 UT
Thanks so much for your wonderful pictures! I was in Spain during July and
August and it was very beautiful but so very hot!
Melinda
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Re: [travelspain] Re: New Google Groups
Posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 13:50:25 UT
Hi Mac,
You may have missed it while you were on your travels, but I sent a message
to the group about this in October ...
[link] I have copied all our Files / Trip Reports to a folder on Google Docs, the
link to which is included in the above message.
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Re: [travelspain] Re: New Google Groups
Posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:52:31 UT
In message <76c6ae7a-fa3e-4af4-bb71-69dd8 8008...@y3g2000vbm.googlegroup s
.com>, Mac <M...@macwolfelee.plus.com> writes
No-one has used the Files since 2008 - it looks like all the Files were
added in 2006, apart from the one in 2008.
The Files are not the same as the Discussions - all the recent messages
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Re: New Google Groups
Posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:10:25 UT
But have you seen this?
" Google Groups will no longer be supporting the Pages and Files
features. Starting January 13, you won't be able to upload new
content, but you will still be able to view and download existing
content. See this announcement for more information and other options
for storing your content. "
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New Google Groups
Posted on Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:05:33 UT
Hi TravelSpainers,
Google has introduced a new interface for the Groups site:
[link] For the moment you have to opt in to this new interface, but it's obvious
that sooner rather than later the new look and feel will be the norm for
all.
Perhaps some of this group only interact via email and never visit the above
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Photos of Spain in Winter
Posted on Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:46:02 UT
Temporal en España (El Pais)
[link] The photos were taken last week during the cold spell that hit Europe. The
link comes from Damian Corrigan’s Spain blog on about.com.
Sandy
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Barcelona in winter
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:51:21 UT
Barcelona in winter: sticky stews and fiery carnivals (The Telegraph)
[link]
Sandy
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Re: Full Circle
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:06:59 UT
Agreed. Always a pleasure and wonderful historical references. Thank
you all.
Headed there again this spring and inspired as ever. This time to
Basque region as my son will be attending school in Bilbao. I'm
especially looking forward to seeing Guernica and San Sebastián.
Gracias, Mark
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Re: [travelspain] Flamenco palos contained in barcodes
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:15:32 UT
I already had a barcode scanner app installed, which is great for reading
all types of barcodes, including QR codes, ISBN numbers, etc.
Roger.
Sent from my Android phone.
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Re: [travelspain] Flamenco palos contained in barcodes
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:35:01 UT
Hi Roger
Thanks for that link I am now enjoying the palos without having to
wait for my new phone to arrive.
The fact that they are MP3 files means they are well worth a click.
Did you have to download an app to discover it worked?
Sue
And it works!
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Re: [travelspain] Flamenco palos contained in barcodes
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:49:17 UT
And it works!
Although to be clear what the barcodes are actually decoding are simply URLs
(web addresses), which take you to mp3 files stored on the
flamencopatrimoniodelahumanida d.es website, and which are also playable
directly from here:
[link]
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Flamenco palos contained in barcodes
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:34:37 UT
This is somewhat off-topic but it's a case of "saw this and I
thought of TravelSpain" as it is about Flamenco and an initiative to
promote it.
The story QR
codes deliver the Flamenco experience <[link]>
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Re: [travelspain] The Jews and Walls of Ávila
Posted on Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:35:12 UT
Lester
Looks like you might be right! My original assertion was from memory from a
visit several years ago. Now you've sent me scampering for my guide books!
Ciudad Rodrigo, says my guide, was "besieged by the Duke of Wellington,
during the Napoleonic Wars. He finally took the city and the title of Duke
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Re: [travelspain] Full Circle
Posted on Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:00:15 UT
John,
You've just put into words what I'm sure the great majority of the group are
thinking! I certainly was.
Maybe we should have a whip-round and pay for Mac to return ASAP!
Roger.
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[link] - Madrid City Guide for Tourists
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Re: [travelspain] Full Circle
Posted on Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:54:27 UT
Mac,
Couldn't you stay a few more days? We're all going to miss your wonderful stories! Thanks for taking us all back to Spain through your eyes.
John
Coming over the Sierra de Guaderrama was easy and beautiful - the
palace and gardens at La Granja, the snow-bedecked pines over the
pass, the easy roll down the sunlit southern slopes. But then a
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Full Circle
Posted on Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:01:59 UT
Coming over the Sierra de Guaderrama was easy and beautiful - the
palace and gardens at La Granja, the snow-bedecked pines over the
pass, the easy roll down the sunlit southern slopes. But then a
dreadful mistake. We made for El Pardo. Extensive woodlands, a much-
visited beautiful area near Madrid, aperfect place to stay and leave
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Re: Segovia and the 'A' Word
Posted on Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:50:57 UT
On Nov 26, 4:14 am, John Zumsteg <jzums...@directionsconsulting .com>
wrote:
Ha! You ought to know us better than that, John. No posh hotels for
us, although our hostal was right by the aqueduct, and perfectly
adequate at €45 per night. Not quite as budget as the Aussie we met
in Ávila, who had found somewhere for €14 per night, single. Not your
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The Jews and Walls of Ávila
Posted on Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:46:47 UT
Stewart,
I have this very vague recollection that the church in Ciudad Rodrigo
abutted the city walls - but I could be wildly wrong.
Lester
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Re: [travelspain] Segovia and the 'A' Word
Posted on Fri, 26 Nov 2010 04:14:09 UT
Ah, Segovia...
We were in Segovia in late September (which reminds me that I'd better get some trip reports written up about our two weeks in Spain). Where did you stay, Mac? We stayed at Hotel Infanta Isabel, right on the Plaza Mayor. We've stayed there several times before and know to ask for one of three specific rooms, which are large and look out on the Plaza Mayor.
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Re: The Jews and Walls of Ávila
Posted on Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:24:08 UT
Hi John
In fact I knew the Basilica was closed (since last November), but was
led to believe one could still drive up the road to view the exterior
and cross, Not so.
On Nov 24, 3:01 am, John Zumsteg <jzums...@directionsconsulting .com>
wrote:
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